Comments on: The Morning After http://www.mushinnoshin.com/blog/archives/161 "I have nothing to say and I'm saying it" -- John Cage Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:28:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: the view from below » Post Election Day Regurgitations http://www.mushinnoshin.com/blog/archives/161#comment-6168 the view from below » Post Election Day Regurgitations Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:45:51 +0000 http://www.mushinnoshin.com/blog/archives/161#comment-6168 [...] mushin no shin: …now when people ask me, “just how backwards and bigoted is Tennessee?”, I can just point to a recent poll and say “oh… about 80%”. [...] [...] mushin no shin: …now when people ask me, “just how backwards and bigoted is Tennessee?”, I can just point to a recent poll and say “oh… about 80%”. [...]

]]> By: Jon http://www.mushinnoshin.com/blog/archives/161#comment-6153 Jon Thu, 09 Nov 2006 12:43:54 +0000 http://www.mushinnoshin.com/blog/archives/161#comment-6153 Protest votes are no good for long-term success is all I'm saying. They're votes *against* the Republican, not *for* the Democrat. Those are votes that want to go "home" to the Republicans, and will go back if the Republicans reform themselves. And again I'm not saying Ford should have run a liberal campaign ala Steve Cohen, I'm saying he should have run more like Tester or Webb, more center-north than center-south. But *could* he run like them, having already voted for the war, and being in a state demanding gay & immigrant bashing, and trying to overcome his family and all? Probably not. I'm not criticizing Ford's campaign so much as warning other dems not to use it as a model. Protest votes are no good for long-term success is all I’m saying. They’re votes *against* the Republican, not *for* the Democrat. Those are votes that want to go “home” to the Republicans, and will go back if the Republicans reform themselves.

And again I’m not saying Ford should have run a liberal campaign ala Steve Cohen, I’m saying he should have run more like Tester or Webb, more center-north than center-south. But *could* he run like them, having already voted for the war, and being in a state demanding gay & immigrant bashing, and trying to overcome his family and all? Probably not. I’m not criticizing Ford’s campaign so much as warning other dems not to use it as a model.

]]> By: Gandalf Mantooth http://www.mushinnoshin.com/blog/archives/161#comment-6121 Gandalf Mantooth Thu, 09 Nov 2006 05:49:33 +0000 http://www.mushinnoshin.com/blog/archives/161#comment-6121 I forget, do we count swing votes and not protest votes? If you break down the exit polls that revealed the switching, you'd find a 1/3 angry at scandals, however you'd also find other reasons why they switched (Iraq, etc). Ford did better than expected in the GOP districts, better than most expected, and nearly matched Clinton's 96 peformance there. Only Ned and Phil could have done better. The man got nearly 50%, those votes had to come from <em>somewhere</em>, not just the base. I forget, do we count swing votes and not protest votes? If you break down the exit polls that revealed the switching, you’d find a 1/3 angry at scandals, however you’d also find other reasons why they switched (Iraq, etc).

Ford did better than expected in the GOP districts, better than most expected, and nearly matched Clinton’s 96 peformance there. Only Ned and Phil could have done better. The man got nearly 50%, those votes had to come from somewhere, not just the base.

]]> By: Jon http://www.mushinnoshin.com/blog/archives/161#comment-6078 Jon Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:19:16 +0000 http://www.mushinnoshin.com/blog/archives/161#comment-6078 Yeah, but those are protest votes, not swing votes, it's a little different. It wouldn't have happened without the specific GOP scandals, and was of limited effect where the GOP candidate was not implicated and not incumbent. As Ford learned. Yeah, but those are protest votes, not swing votes, it’s a little different. It wouldn’t have happened without the specific GOP scandals, and was of limited effect where the GOP candidate was not implicated and not incumbent. As Ford learned.

]]> By: Gandalf Mantooth http://www.mushinnoshin.com/blog/archives/161#comment-6075 Gandalf Mantooth Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:31:37 +0000 http://www.mushinnoshin.com/blog/archives/161#comment-6075 Social conservatives do swing. 1/3 of them this time around to be exact. Social conservatives do swing. 1/3 of them this time around to be exact.

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