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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, yeah I&#039;ve had open office do that a few times. In addition to seeing it do a good impersonation of a strobe light :)

That&#039;s quite a recommendation for chromium, I&#039;ll definitely check out the crossover version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, yeah I&#8217;ve had open office do that a few times. In addition to seeing it do a good impersonation of a strobe light :)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s quite a recommendation for chromium, I&#8217;ll definitely check out the crossover version.</p>
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		<title>By: pulse</title>
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		<dc:creator>pulse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw, i&#039;ve had openoffice commandeer my entire x session before.  NOTHING would fix it except for killing X and restarting it.  it may be a bug in my window manager (fvwm), but the fact that openoffice has been the ONLY offender (and a repeat one at that) makes me think not.

so consider yourself lucky that killing the process worked for you ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw, i&#8217;ve had openoffice commandeer my entire x session before.  NOTHING would fix it except for killing X and restarting it.  it may be a bug in my window manager (fvwm), but the fact that openoffice has been the ONLY offender (and a repeat one at that) makes me think not.</p>
<p>so consider yourself lucky that killing the process worked for you ;)</p>
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		<title>By: pulse</title>
		<link>http://www.mushinnoshin.com/blog/archives/593/comment-page-1#comment-44470</link>
		<dc:creator>pulse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, i meant about:config, not about:cache, though the about:cache window does have some interesting statistics.

again, chromium has a near-perfect architecture, has never crashed, and has consistently lower memory usage than firefox.  my chrome instance has been open for several days, seen tons of tabs and, with 3 current tabs, is only using 88M.  in sharp contrast is the firefox instance i&#039;ve just opened and, currently only viewing the about:config and about:cache tabs, is already using 53M.

did i mention that, with chromium, if one page has some javascript that goes wonkers and eats the page, it doesn&#039;t affect other tabs?

chromium rocks.  firefox sucks.  the disparity is as great as that between firefox and internet explorer.  it.  is.  simply.  amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, i meant about:config, not about:cache, though the about:cache window does have some interesting statistics.</p>
<p>again, chromium has a near-perfect architecture, has never crashed, and has consistently lower memory usage than firefox.  my chrome instance has been open for several days, seen tons of tabs and, with 3 current tabs, is only using 88M.  in sharp contrast is the firefox instance i&#8217;ve just opened and, currently only viewing the about:config and about:cache tabs, is already using 53M.</p>
<p>did i mention that, with chromium, if one page has some javascript that goes wonkers and eats the page, it doesn&#8217;t affect other tabs?</p>
<p>chromium rocks.  firefox sucks.  the disparity is as great as that between firefox and internet explorer.  it.  is.  simply.  amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: pulse</title>
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		<dc:creator>pulse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>while this should not affect clean instances of firefox, i do recommend that you set firefox&#039;s recent page cache to 0.  by default, iirc, it caches the 8 most recent pages.  i can&#039;t find the appropriate config option; it may have changed with firefox 3.

there are a TON of preferences that you can modify in the about:cache window.  check out: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Reducing_memory_usage_-_Firefox

i doubt any of this is likely to address your weirdness, since it&#039;s been working just fine.  honestly, though, i&#039;d recommend you switch to google&#039;s chromium.  while i don&#039;t believe the linux port of chromium works yet, the windows version works under wine: http://www.codeweavers.com/services/ports/chromium/

i haven&#039;t yet tried crossover chromium, so ymmv.

since the beta of google chrome was released, i no longer use firefox.  the days of the monolithic browser are over.  unless mozilla and/or microsoft can quickly and efficiently convert to the model that chromium uses, google will own the browser market inside of 5 years.

sorry, firefox, our time was sweet, but you grew fat and lazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while this should not affect clean instances of firefox, i do recommend that you set firefox&#8217;s recent page cache to 0.  by default, iirc, it caches the 8 most recent pages.  i can&#8217;t find the appropriate config option; it may have changed with firefox 3.</p>
<p>there are a TON of preferences that you can modify in the about:cache window.  check out: <a href="http://kb.mozillazine.org/Reducing_memory_usage_-_Firefox" rel="nofollow">http://kb.mozillazine.org/Reducing_memory_usage_-_Firefox</a></p>
<p>i doubt any of this is likely to address your weirdness, since it&#8217;s been working just fine.  honestly, though, i&#8217;d recommend you switch to google&#8217;s chromium.  while i don&#8217;t believe the linux port of chromium works yet, the windows version works under wine: <a href="http://www.codeweavers.com/services/ports/chromium/" rel="nofollow">http://www.codeweavers.com/services/ports/chromium/</a></p>
<p>i haven&#8217;t yet tried crossover chromium, so ymmv.</p>
<p>since the beta of google chrome was released, i no longer use firefox.  the days of the monolithic browser are over.  unless mozilla and/or microsoft can quickly and efficiently convert to the model that chromium uses, google will own the browser market inside of 5 years.</p>
<p>sorry, firefox, our time was sweet, but you grew fat and lazy.</p>
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